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: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: Eric H January 07, 2019, 12:15:15 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/fWc1s5zq/fishhub-Bs-UEPeog-W1e.jpg)
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: spideyjg January 07, 2019, 06:04:58 AM
Smile nice and big for the DFG.

Can't tell if mako or JV white but leaning JV
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: Latimeria January 07, 2019, 06:19:02 AM
There's other pictures out of them cutting it up.  Definitely juvie GW.

: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: Latimeria January 07, 2019, 06:28:01 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/syWGRPL.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/DxLxUn0.jpg)

: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: spideyjg January 07, 2019, 10:43:28 AM
Makos do not have serrated teeth or black spots on the underside tips of the pectoral fins per DFG ID traits.
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: Pinoyfisher January 07, 2019, 12:00:03 PM
Dumb phucks!! Totally ruining it for us! Hope that fine is hefty as phuck!
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: xjchad January 07, 2019, 01:13:18 PM
Yep, here it comes...  >:( >:( >:(
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: Eric H January 07, 2019, 01:25:15 PM
Smile nice and big for the DFG.


Thats exactly what they did. DFW popped em 8)
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: Pinoyfisher January 07, 2019, 01:26:49 PM
Smile nice and big for the DFG.


Thats exactly what they did. DFW popped em 8)

Any details on that?
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: Latimeria January 07, 2019, 01:34:10 PM
I'm curious too.
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: Chris January 07, 2019, 02:16:39 PM
Who's Matt? That sent the text saying it was mutilated.
 
I had hands on with that shark after it was killed. It was finned, gut and put in a truck. DFW came by and had a conversation with the angler. The one who hooked it wasn't the one who gaffed or stabbed it.

There was no popping or busting, we waited in the parking lot until they got there.
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: Pinoyfisher January 07, 2019, 02:18:06 PM
Who's Matt? That sent the text saying it was mutilated.
 
I had hands on with that shark after it was killed. It was finned, gut and put in a truck. DFW came by and had a conversation with the angler. The one who hooked it wasn't the one who gaffed or stabbed it.

There was no popping or busting, we waited in the parking lot until they got there.

Did they not know what they had?
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: Chris January 07, 2019, 02:24:51 PM
Who's Matt? That sent the text saying it was mutilated.
 
I had hands on with that shark after it was killed. It was finned, gut and put in a truck. DFW came by and had a conversation with the angler. The one who hooked it wasn't the one who gaffed or stabbed it.

There was no popping or busting, we waited in the parking lot until they got there.

Did they not know what they had?

Not at all. They got talked into thinking it was a mako and the guy who was saying it tossed a gaff
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: spideyjg January 07, 2019, 03:11:01 PM
Did they cite the angler, the gaffer, or both? Looks like 7-9 individual peeps in those pics. Nobody knew better!?
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: sasquatch January 07, 2019, 04:17:53 PM
Who's Matt? That sent the text saying it was mutilated.
 
I had hands on with that shark after it was killed. It was finned, gut and put in a truck. DFW came by and had a conversation with the angler. The one who hooked it wasn't the one who gaffed or stabbed it.

There was no popping or busting, we waited in the parking lot until they got there.

Did they not know what they had?

Not at all. They got talked into thinking it was a mako and the guy who was saying it tossed a gaff

Any info for us on the outcome of the conversation or disposition of the shark?


: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: Eric H January 07, 2019, 06:16:07 PM
How does the DFW not know what a GWS looks like?
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: Chris January 07, 2019, 07:24:12 PM
How does the DFW not know what a GWS looks like?

She knew exactly what it was.
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: Latimeria January 08, 2019, 06:21:01 AM
Who's Matt? That sent the text saying it was mutilated.
 
I had hands on with that shark after it was killed. It was finned, gut and put in a truck. DFW came by and had a conversation with the angler. The one who hooked it wasn't the one who gaffed or stabbed it.

There was no popping or busting, we waited in the parking lot until they got there.


I don't know who Matt is, but the screen shot was a forwarded to me. 

I'm really not understanding some of this conversation though. So the DFW rolled up, knew it was a Great White, and let the fishermen roll out with it in their truck or did DFW take it and roll out in in their truck?  When you had hands on with it, did you let them know it was a Great White or did they know that after they got it over the rail? Was there any fines issued or did the DFW just take names and the story?

Just curious as catching and releasing GW's will always be a gray area as far as the law is concerned, but catching and killing one... well....
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: Eric H January 08, 2019, 01:37:32 PM
One of tooblopperfirma tackle's friends was saying he got word of the incident and raced over their from work. He stated he contacted the warden and held the pier people up. Wardens arrived and busted them thanks to him.
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: Chris January 08, 2019, 02:01:13 PM
One of tooblopperfirma tackle's friends was saying he got word of the incident and raced over their from work. He stated he contacted the warden and held the pier people up. Wardens arrived and busted them thanks to him.

Ya that's Ed and not true. He did come down when he saw what was happening and thought it was someone else. Don't believe all the rumors and explanations floating around on IG stories.

Nothing is being ruined for anyone else and the wardens aren't out to get shark fishermen from the piers or shore.
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: Eric H January 08, 2019, 02:16:47 PM
One of tooblopperfirma tackle's friends was saying he got word of the incident and raced over their from work. He stated he contacted the warden and held the pier people up. Wardens arrived and busted them thanks to him.

Ya that's Ed and not true. He did come down when he saw what was happening and thought it was someone else. Don't believe all the rumors and explanations floating around on IG stories.

Nothing is being ruined for anyone else and the wardens aren't out to get shark fishermen from the piers or shore.
yeah thats him. I just dont get why someone would go out their way to tell a lie. Guess hes just that kinda guy.
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: sasquatch January 08, 2019, 02:54:34 PM
Still wondering what happened to the shark, and if the angler was cited.

For example, in deer/elk cases, the animal may be donated to a food bank. An accidental illegal kill may or may not be cited, depending on circumstances and warden discretion.

Not interested in piling on anyone, just interested.

Chris, you seem to have the most credible information, can you help answer these questions?
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: spideyjg January 08, 2019, 03:20:11 PM
5515      (a)
M  Taking or Possession of Fully Protected Fish $2,120.00

28.06 28 M White Shark $1,095.00

From .

https://nrm.dfg.ca.gov/FileHandler.ashx?DocumentID=135264&inline
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: Eric H January 08, 2019, 03:38:03 PM
5515      (a)
M  Taking or Possession of Fully Protected Fish $2,120.00

28.06 28 M White Shark $1,095.00

From .

https://nrm.dfg.ca.gov/FileHandler.ashx?DocumentID=135264&inline

Thats way too light. They need revoke his license if he even has one. Also take him out back and beat him 8)

5k fine 8)
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: spideyjg January 08, 2019, 03:48:12 PM
Check out the Abalone fine, $61K
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: Eric H January 08, 2019, 06:50:50 PM
You would think a gws would be worth more than abalone
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: vdisney January 09, 2019, 03:42:08 AM
Not interested in piling on anyone, just interested.

This thread has me curious as well Steve...........thanks for keeping it civil.
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: BenCantrell January 09, 2019, 09:41:05 AM
I will also be civil.  ;)

Curious what happened/happens from this.
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: Eric H January 09, 2019, 06:35:10 PM
Oside_kayak_guy  on instagram was one of the guys there and wrote a very detailed 5 page description of the entire event.

Its a good read and explains eveything you need to know.
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: sasquatch January 09, 2019, 07:03:12 PM
Thanks Eric.

More or less what I thought might have happened. Sounds like the meat will go to waste. That’s a shame. Remains to be seen what the consequences may be.
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: xjchad January 09, 2019, 08:05:09 PM
Link?
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: Eric H January 09, 2019, 08:41:01 PM
Link?
Dont think there is a link.

I sent it to your Instagram
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: Latimeria March 08, 2019, 09:02:53 AM
http://www.cbs8.com/story/40089772/san-diego-man-charged-with-catching-and-keeping-great-white-shark?fbclid=IwAR18gWtvo8zmvwyd3ouuoQqmRm9XO67ADNlcKdCfInB7UcN2TSKAPpcx7FQ
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: FISH86R March 09, 2019, 07:15:00 AM
Oh ya.. He's going to jail.. He's not gonna do a whole 6 months but San Diego's gonna make an example out of him..
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: sasquatch March 09, 2019, 07:48:58 AM
90 days. Suspended. $500 fine. Doubt he spends an hour in jail.
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: Eric H March 09, 2019, 11:52:02 AM
What a joke
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: sasquatch March 09, 2019, 12:47:40 PM
What a joke

That’s just my guess Eric, not fact. Remains to be seen what happens.
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: Eric H March 09, 2019, 03:03:07 PM
What a joke

That’s just my guess Eric, not fact. Remains to be seen what happens.
Oh gotcha, thought those were the end results. Bet you are really close.
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: FISH86R March 10, 2019, 05:57:32 PM
90 days. Suspended. $500 fine. Doubt he spends an hour in jail.




Haha.. You think?? I don't know man..? His discovery really looks like they're stacking it for a charge to stick..??
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: sasquatch March 10, 2019, 07:01:54 PM
90 days. Suspended. $500 fine. Doubt he spends an hour in jail.




Haha.. You think?? I don't know man..? His discovery really looks like they're stacking it for a charge to stick..??

Only time will tell. I’m used to being wrong. Hope we actually find out for sure someday.
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: sasquatch April 21, 2019, 11:48:03 AM
90 days. Suspended. $500 fine. Doubt he spends an hour in jail.

https://www.10news.com/news/local-news/north-county-news/fisherman-sentenced-for-catching-great-white-shark-off-oceanside-pier
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: Chris April 21, 2019, 06:57:10 PM
$250 fine, 3 year probation and can’t fish Oceanside pier
: Re: Oside pier a day or 2 ago
: 1morecast April 22, 2019, 02:09:49 PM
$250 fine, 3 year probation and can’t fish Oceanside pier

Basically, it only cost you $250 dollars to catch and kill a GWS. How much is the fine for BSB?  ;)