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Fishing Talk => Fishing Talk => : spideyjg September 23, 2016, 10:07:04 PM

: Boat obtained
: spideyjg September 23, 2016, 10:07:04 PM
Got a line on what can be a sweet cat boat. Problem is my Outback has a towing limit of 1000 lbs unless the trailer has brakes. 2500 if it does.

Total boat weight is unknown <2500 but may be more than 1K so wonder if anyone with a larger towing vehicle wants to give me a hand and look into this.

Boat is in Palm Springs.
: Re: Need help buying a boat on Sunday
: Pinoyfisher September 24, 2016, 10:41:56 AM
I'd help you out, but I have an Accord. Maybe rent a truck from U-Haul??
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: Eric H September 24, 2016, 12:08:09 PM
I could tow it but based on where I live it won't work out..


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: Latimeria September 24, 2016, 06:12:19 PM
Jim, sorry but i'm out fishing tomorrow.

Listen, that aluminum boat and trailer weigh nothing. i've towed boats much heavier than my capacity, but besides that, that aluminum doubtfully weighs more than 1200 total plus or minus a hundred pounds.

Here are the specs for a new one and you should be toally fine depending on your hitch weight.

http://www.lundboats.com/boat-models/1600-rebel/


I really think you would be able to tow it just fine, but do the trailer speed limit and shift to 3rd gear up and down hills. 
I hope it all works out for you.  Quick question, were you planning on using the new Suburu to tow the boat in general or just don't want to tow it from that long distance and will use the Suburu to tow in SD?

Good luck boss!  It looks like a nice boat!


: Re: Need help buying a boat on Sunday
: 1morecast September 26, 2016, 09:07:24 PM
So did you get the boat?
: Re: Need help buying a boat on Sunday
: spideyjg September 26, 2016, 10:24:21 PM
No it was too hot to risk towing and I had too much work in the morning.

I'm going to see if it is still available. Keeping an eye out for one and that was a great fit
: Re: Need help buying a boat on Sunday
: Pinoyfisher September 27, 2016, 10:03:42 AM
No it was too hot to risk towing and I had too much work in the morning.

I'm going to see if it is still available. Keeping an eye out for one and that was a great fit

Bummer. Hopefully it's still available or you find one locally. Good luck!
: Re: Need help buying a boat on Sunday
: spideyjg September 27, 2016, 10:56:06 AM
I'll need trailer brakes and according to Last Chance Marine not all trailers can be easily retrofitted. Gotta check that aspect or downsize to a jon boat.

Found a sweet Lowe for 3K but brakes unknown.

Jim
: Re: Need help buying a boat on Sunday
: Latimeria September 27, 2016, 11:13:58 AM
I don't think they make braked trailers that small, Jim.  Like I said, I still think you're fine and wouldn't think twice, but it's your vehicle so you might need to look at a John boat rig if you are going to make any long runs on the trailer.  I'll send any links if I come across something.
: Re: Need help buying a boat on Sunday
: spideyjg September 27, 2016, 11:44:40 AM
They are usually optional on 17 foot or less apparently. A Lowe dealer said the current matching one to the used one braked trailer is an option but not stock.  Trying to have the seller send a pic of the axle to see it it can be fitted.

The Outback limit without trailer brakes is 1K but 2.5K with brakes. Estimated weight of rig is 1800-2k so far beyond the brakeless limit. Also need a low tongue weighted rig. 200 lbs or less.

Be nice to have something lake and ocean capable but may have to just downsize for lakes and river.

Jim
: Re: Need help buying a boat on Sunday
: 1morecast September 27, 2016, 06:43:01 PM
Go big or go home.  ;)
: Re: Need help buying a boat on Sunday
: WheresMyBeer September 28, 2016, 08:51:42 AM
It's not that you want the wrong boat ... you bought the wrong car.  ;D ;D ;D

Good luck man - hope it works out.
: Re: Need help buying a boat on Sunday
: spideyjg October 27, 2016, 10:17:31 AM
So the SD catfish is in Hemet getting a bill of health. Water trials in Dec probably.

Will need some carpeting work though.

Jim
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: sasquatch October 27, 2016, 10:32:40 AM
Congrats, Jim.
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: xjchad October 27, 2016, 10:33:27 AM
Nice!  8)
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: Latimeria October 27, 2016, 11:44:53 AM
Congrats Jim!
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: Eric H October 27, 2016, 03:52:42 PM
Congrats on the new toy.
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: spideyjg October 27, 2016, 07:51:49 PM
Pretty blank 16 foot canvas. The left side thing is a livewell and the rest is all open space.

Need to get emergency gear and various sundries.

It will take a while to get it fully customized but toss rods, ice chests, and tackle bag in and go

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/spideyjg/20161024_173407_1.jpg)
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: xjchad October 27, 2016, 10:20:28 PM
Looks like a fun project Jim!
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: Pinoyfisher October 27, 2016, 11:21:54 PM
Nice! Looking fwd to your first boat report!
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: Latimeria October 28, 2016, 11:29:38 AM
Man, that is a clean looking canvas there!  I almost bought an aluminum boat earlier this year, but it was literally turning to dust. This boat looks like it has a ton of potential!
Any questions you have, just let me know.  I've been up to my ears on restoring boats and have a lot of the answers to questions someone would have.
: Re: Boat obtained
: spideyjg October 28, 2016, 12:49:18 PM
I'll be calling you as soon as I get it back.

First thing will be finishing the console for the maiden trip. Probably Otay or some other lake to open it up.

Jim
: Re: Boat obtained
: spideyjg November 16, 2016, 04:15:35 PM
Should have a status update tomorrow. Need to get a list of must haves together.

Boat and human first aid, flares etc..........

Jim
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: spideyjg November 22, 2016, 10:16:30 PM
Needed new lights on the trailer and the trailer will need to have the axle moved up or the rails lengthened to properly balance the rig. Trolling motor awaits as does other knick knacks but it is getting worked on now as the backlog cleared.

Engine has clean bill of health and electronics are in place.
: Re: Boat obtained
: Latimeria November 23, 2016, 06:19:02 AM
Needed new lights on the trailer and the trailer will need to have the axle moved up or the rails lengthened to properly balance the rig. Trolling motor awaits as does other knick knacks but it is getting worked on now as the backlog cleared.

Engine has clean bill of health and electronics are in place.

Just in time for trout season... or the last of the catfish season!   8)
: Re: Boat obtained
: spideyjg November 23, 2016, 07:39:23 AM
I look at it as a long "break in" time to get used to it and it's capabilities before next year.

Cats wake up in filling lakes even in the winter.
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: Pinoyfisher November 23, 2016, 10:16:03 AM
Sounds like you're on the way to a fun boating season! Let the line for first mates start...
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: spideyjg November 23, 2016, 06:27:08 PM
Sounds like you're on the way to a fun boating season! Let the line for first mates start...

Tom already volunteered  for "sea trials". Once getting a passing grade may head it to the big water. In all my time in SD I have been ocean fishing 3 times on a boat. Twice on cattle boats bringing home rotted fish, no ice, and once on a guys personal boat.

Needless to say I would be on the bottom of any learning curve.

Jim
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: Pinoyfisher November 23, 2016, 06:52:31 PM
Sounds like you're on the way to a fun boating season! Let the line for first mates start...

Tom already volunteered  for "sea trials". Once getting a passing grade may head it to the big water. In all my time in SD I have been ocean fishing 3 times on a boat. Twice on cattle boats bringing home rotted fish, no ice, and once on a guys personal boat.

Needless to say I would be on the bottom of any learning curve.

Jim

I think that's a great idea having an experienced boat owner like Tom help you learn the ropes. I'd do the same.
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: spideyjg December 07, 2016, 04:47:31 PM
Looking like a next week pick up.  8)

Jim
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: WheresMyBeer December 07, 2016, 10:36:29 PM
Awesome~!

"The List" (currently working on ours). Funny how "eh, just add that to the list" becomes a bitch over time.  ;D

... and ... sea tow.  :P :P
: Re: Boat obtained
: spideyjg December 14, 2016, 02:47:59 PM
So picked up the boat. Tongue weight was 240, package weight is 1500 making that 16% not the preferred 10%. Dropped it off at FE trailers to get the axle moved to shave that weight down to 150 and replace the cracking tires.

Got the full blessing from Performance Marine on the engine and electronics.

Still will need carpeting work but it is closer.

Jim
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: sasquatch December 14, 2016, 03:17:21 PM
Thats great, Jim.
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: Latimeria December 15, 2016, 05:54:40 AM
How long does FE trailer's have it?
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: spideyjg December 15, 2016, 06:06:45 AM
Maybe a week he said.
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: spideyjg December 16, 2016, 04:04:39 PM
It is all set to be picked up but I can't get out there until next Friday. :(
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: Pinoyfisher December 17, 2016, 09:45:59 AM
Sounds like you're dropping some 💰!! And, like Dave said, get Seatow or Vessel Assist. Never owned a boat, but my boat owning friends all say to get one of those services before hitting the water.
: Re: Boat obtained
: spideyjg December 17, 2016, 08:38:51 PM
Sounds like you're dropping some 💰!! And, like Dave said, get Seatow or Vessel Assist. Never owned a boat, but my boat owning friends all say to get one of those services before hitting the water.

Well after 50+ years on this ball of mud I now have space to have one. Granted it is a fair chunk of change but not nearly if it were new.  :o

My work schedule doesn't lend itself to rental boats and I swore off cattle boats years ago due to the piss poor quality of the sun baked gunny sack cat food I came home with.

Jim