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Shore Fishing => Salt Water Shore Fishing Reports => : LONGCAST JOE November 22, 2017, 12:28:35 AM

: SB Leo
: LONGCAST JOE November 22, 2017, 12:28:35 AM
Met up with Chad in VC, gave it a couple hours without a bump but conditions were stellar...decided to try a new spot he’d been scoping out up in SB to see if one of us could put the first SB shark on the board...nothing for the board but wasn’t a total loss...got this 55” Leo later in the night...still trying to find a site I can figure out how to post pics from my cell phone..Chad, if this doesn’t show, post up the pic for me would ya?
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: xjchad November 22, 2017, 01:04:46 AM
Good seeing you again Joe!  We'll get an SB shark for the list soon, I think this spot has good potential.
Here's your leo.
(https://i.imgur.com/AZtZfuD.jpg)
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: Latimeria November 22, 2017, 05:44:00 AM
Nice session guys!  We fished last night and I was pretty confident even with the lack of bites, but the Squatch was ready to go.  I would have been thrilled with a big 55" leopard!  Nice one Joe!
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: vdisney November 22, 2017, 06:12:42 AM
I would have been thrilled with a big 55" leopard!  Nice one Joe!

Times two, I love leos.  BTW Joe, did you hang it on your new Phenix?
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: LONGCAST JOE November 22, 2017, 09:27:43 AM
I would have been thrilled with a big 55" leopard!  Nice one Joe!

Times two, I love leos.  BTW Joe, did you hang it on your new Phenix?
Verne- Yes I did, on the new 14’ Phenix Black Diamond, new big baitrunner 14000, new spot, new county...it’s like a brand new world 😃
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: lightline21 November 22, 2017, 09:36:08 AM
Nicely done!
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: BackBayMan November 22, 2017, 10:25:52 AM
Sweet Kitty ;D
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: xjchad November 22, 2017, 11:15:05 AM
"Long rod hangover"  (Joe can explain  ;D )

(https://i.imgur.com/RdGzaZ6.jpg)
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: LONGCAST JOE November 22, 2017, 11:25:06 AM
"Long rod hangover"  (Joe can explain  ;D )

(https://i.imgur.com/RdGzaZ6.jpg)

Luckily I have a 5 day weekend, but not really meaning to, fell asleep 😴 in my truck last night after long rodding. Woke up this morning and decided as long as I’m here I might as well go back down to the beach and give the LC a few casts...boom! Halibut for T-Day
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: Pinoyfisher November 22, 2017, 12:01:02 PM
You're hardcore Joe! Someone is about to score a legit grinner soon!!
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: sasquatch November 22, 2017, 04:33:10 PM
More jealous of that halibut than the leopard, and it is a nice leopard.
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: JayRay November 28, 2017, 11:08:57 AM
What bait are you using for the Leo's? You have put some big ones on the sand. I have just been getting the the baby's all under 12" on the critter rod and would love to get a nice sized one. They don't seem to touch my long rod.
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: BackBayMan November 28, 2017, 11:14:27 AM
What bait are you using for the Leo's? You have put some big ones on the sand. I have just been getting the the baby's all under 12" on the critter rod and would love to get a nice sized one. They don't seem to touch my long rod.

You have to stop with the double hook drop rig and go with either a fish finder or better yet a 3' 3 way with at least a 10/0 hook and a serious chunk of bait, preferably a nice juicy mac head or bonito head.

Big bait, big fish ;D
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: JayRay November 28, 2017, 12:30:34 PM
What bait are you using for the Leo's? You have put some big ones on the sand. I have just been getting the the baby's all under 12" on the critter rod and would love to get a nice sized one. They don't seem to touch my long rod.

You have to stop with the double hook drop rig and go with either a fish finder or better yet a 3' 3 way with at least a 10/0 hook and a serious chunk of bait, preferably a nice juicy mac head or bonito head.

Big bait, big fish ;D

I love that double drop, just need to make them longer. I think I am going to make up a 6 foot one ;D
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: spideyjg November 28, 2017, 12:41:21 PM
A double drop shot with squish head gets all sorts of attention.

Just not from big grinners.

Jim
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: LONGCAST JOE December 02, 2017, 08:14:29 PM
What bait are you using for the Leo's? You have put some big ones on the sand. I have just been getting the the baby's all under 12" on the critter rod and would love to get a nice sized one. They don't seem to touch my long rod.

You have to stop with the double hook drop rig and go with either a fish finder or better yet a 3' 3 way with at least a 10/0 hook and a serious chunk of bait, preferably a nice juicy mac head or bonito head.


Big bait, big fish ;D

I love that double drop, just need to make them longer. I think I am going to make up a 6 foot one ;D

Hey Jay, I got this one on a fresh Mac head...If I catch a Leo at night it’s just 7gill by catch taken on the bait and rig I’m using for them. Now if I am targeting Leo’s during daylight hours I’ll use for bait whatever I can muster on a light rod in the surf ie: croaker, perch or what I got my PB on was a whole 10” Corbina.
BTW I gave up on the double dropper rig when I couldn’t find a good way to transition wire leader to the dropper loops without it getting all twisted up
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: JayRay December 05, 2017, 10:26:36 AM
What bait are you using for the Leo's? You have put some big ones on the sand. I have just been getting the the baby's all under 12" on the critter rod and would love to get a nice sized one. They don't seem to touch my long rod.

You have to stop with the double hook drop rig and go with either a fish finder or better yet a 3' 3 way with at least a 10/0 hook and a serious chunk of bait, preferably a nice juicy mac head or bonito head.


Big bait, big fish ;D

I love that double drop, just need to make them longer. I think I am going to make up a 6 foot one ;D

Hey Jay, I got this one on a fresh Mac head...If I catch a Leo at night it’s just 7gill by catch taken on the bait and rig I’m using for them. Now if I am targeting Leo’s during daylight hours I’ll use for bait whatever I can muster on a light rod in the surf ie: croaker, perch or what I got my PB on was a whole 10” Corbina.
BTW I gave up on the double dropper rig when I couldn’t find a good way to transition wire leader to the dropper loops without it getting all twisted up

Thanks, The small ones were always taking the squid so I was trying to target bigger ones with larger squid. I always have a critter rod out for bait so will keep trying with my critter catch.

I know what you mean on the twist with the double drop, that's what I was trying to figure out but have not found a way to counter it either. I was thinking maybe shrink wrap or wrapping it with electrical tape might help, or those three ways that have a wire leg, for lack of a better term, that stick out like 3-4 inches might keep the leader far enough away from the main rig line to keep it from twisting.
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: BackBayMan December 05, 2017, 11:39:08 AM
What bait are you using for the Leo's? You have put some big ones on the sand. I have just been getting the the baby's all under 12" on the critter rod and would love to get a nice sized one. They don't seem to touch my long rod.

You have to stop with the double hook drop rig and go with either a fish finder or better yet a 3' 3 way with at least a 10/0 hook and a serious chunk of bait, preferably a nice juicy mac head or bonito head.


Big bait, big fish ;D

I love that double drop, just need to make them longer. I think I am going to make up a 6 foot one ;D

Hey Jay, I got this one on a fresh Mac head...If I catch a Leo at night it’s just 7gill by catch taken on the bait and rig I’m using for them. Now if I am targeting Leo’s during daylight hours I’ll use for bait whatever I can muster on a light rod in the surf ie: croaker, perch or what I got my PB on was a whole 10” Corbina.
BTW I gave up on the double dropper rig when I couldn’t find a good way to transition wire leader to the dropper loops without it getting all twisted up

Thanks, The small ones were always taking the squid so I was trying to target bigger ones with larger squid. I always have a critter rod out for bait so will keep trying with my critter catch.

I know what you mean on the twist with the double drop, that's what I was trying to figure out but have not found a way to counter it either. I was thinking maybe shrink wrap or wrapping it with electrical tape might help, or those three ways that have a wire leg, for lack of a better term, that stick out like 3-4 inches might keep the leader far enough away from the main rig line to keep it from twisting.

Go with the defaults. If your 3-way has a part that sticks out, it's going to increase aerodynamic drag on your casts. I stopped using the drop loop a long time ago. Found it way more productive to use ghost leaders. And you can catch bigger fish with the ghost leader because you can use 40lb to 60lb mono. I've caught 41" bat rays on a 1/0 ghost leader. No way that's going to happen with those WalMart drop rigs. Not to mention you don't have to futz with a bunch of crimps and hardware. Swivel, 18" of line, hook, you're done. You can throw it with an egg sinker so that it moves or use a slider and a triangle or sputnik if you want it to stay put.