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Salt Water Shore Fishing Reports / Re: Tuesday Sharking.... or Really a Conditions Report (10/29)

« on: October 30, 2019, 04:20:52 PM »

Sums it up well. Poachers diving on your bait sounds annoying. Idk how responsive DFG is these days but that could be worth a call.

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Fishing Talk / Re: Something new to me

« on: October 28, 2019, 12:52:00 AM »

I learned that trick on Balboa Pier more than a decade ago, I suppose they since haven't learned diplomacy amongst each other.

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Salt Water Shore Fishing Reports / VC 10/28

« on: October 28, 2019, 12:49:11 AM »

1-3ft waves, 60º air, 65º water, 8kt winds at 5, calm by 10pm, high tide at 10:15pm, light to moderate kelp.



Bait stealers picking mackerel clean to the bone with the tail halves, not really touching the head halves. Smaller chunks didn't do any good. No obvious bites. Happy just to decompress for a few hours on the sand. Might try some new spots in the near future.

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Fishing Talk / Re: Something new to me

« on: October 25, 2019, 04:02:41 PM »

Next time try cutting up the first mackerel you catch, they’re little savages. Crazy about the thresher!

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Salt Water Shore Fishing Reports / Re: It Worked!!

« on: October 25, 2019, 04:49:06 AM »

Good you found the macks! You got me pumped for my next outing with my own fresh supply of mack.

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Fishing Talk / Re: Specialty Surf Shark List (Updated 9/18/19)

« on: October 24, 2019, 04:24:26 AM »

Fair, I was just considering for data points especially  since not many are shown to be caught on ray.

Duly noted.  It's funny, I've tried bat ray as bait before, but have not done well on it.  It sure holds on the hook good and is really a dense piece of bait.  I might have to give it another try.

How do you cut the bats up to put on the hook?  Rectangle?  Square?  Diamond cut with hook at pointy end?  I think a bait rigging article might serve people well on here trying new baits or even hooking them differently.

I like it for 2 reasons: 1, because it stays on the hook so well, and you can use a single steak until it gets bit, you break it off, or you're done fishing. It can soak much, much longer than a mackerel and stays on the hook better. And 2, it weeds out a lot of other species, so when you hook up you know it's not a shovel or a bat ray, however judging by the current data it's only catching 7s and whites, may or may not weed out soups but we'll see.

For a while, I was cutting the wing into strips, parallel with the spine. Essentially as big as you can cast, so maybe cutting the cuts closest to the shoulder in half since they're longer and thicker than the wing tip.

However, the last ray I harvested, I just cut and saved each wing whole, which gave me more time to contemplate a good cut and maybe cut as much from the wing as I need for an upcoming trip. My last trip, I made a cut from wing tip toward the body, making for a piece that's 10" long and 1" wide or so. That way, it has a long profile which may get more attention from the opportunistic 7. Still too early to tell if that's the key, but I think it's a good idea, since the wing tip isn't substantial as a cut on its own.

The rays I've been harvesting have been about 18-24" in wingspan. It seems like the right size where I don't have to harvest too many small ones or handle the waste of a large ray. That one slot bat ray's meat could last a dozen trips or more, at least for a single person who is using cast-able pieces. I caught 34 small/medium size mackerel the other night and I imagine it may only take 4-6 trips to run through that.

Maybe next bat ray I harvest I'll do a pictorial, but it'll be a few months.

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Fishing Talk / Re: Specialty Surf Shark List (Updated 9/18/19)

« on: October 22, 2019, 04:52:59 PM »

Fair, I was just considering for data points especially  since not many are shown to be caught on ray.

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Fishing Talk / Re: Specialty Surf Shark List (Updated 9/18/19)

« on: October 21, 2019, 04:39:59 PM »

Had a few earlier this year before I started posting on PrehistoricSoul. I'll link you and give the abridged data:

#1 - http://www.scsurffishing.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=116424&p=1115103#p1115103/7/19
72"
Bat ray
Female
1-3'
Incoming tide
Waxing crescent (6%)
VC

#2 - http://www.scsurffishing.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=116496
84" (rough guesstimate)
Bat ray
Gender unknown
1-3'
Incoming tide
Waning crescent (4%)
VC

#3 - SCSF search engine spazzing but i'll give the pic below
94"
Bat ray
1-3'
Male
Incoming tide
Waxing crescent (7%)
VC

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Salt Water Shore Fishing Reports / Re: NVC 10/20: Still Waiting, but a PB Leo

« on: October 21, 2019, 01:21:56 PM »

First off, that's a sweet ass rod/reel you are casting!  Congrats on the PB Leopard.  I'm not sure what is going on here with the Soupies and the Sevengill's.  They seem to be running later as every year goes by! 

I can't wait to start seeing some nice grinners from up there when the bite starts to happen!

Thanks! It’s a Penn Carnage ii and an Avet MXJ. I’ve been a little paranoid that I’ll get schooled by an odd white or BSB, most people would probably go next size up with the reel, but I've yet to fret in a fight. The XH rod sure seems to kick a critter’s ass, that’s for sure.

I took a look at that chart you made of all the bigger species that have been caught on the forum and realized A: ray chunks will catch 7s and whites but not soups, and B: it looks like it’s might be too late for soups up here and too early for 7s. Doesn’t stop me from trying though.

I’m just gonna keep going out on Sundays until it pops open. I’ve got a new spot I have a theory about as well, but it may be such a steep beach that it would pose a safety issue while reviving big sharks.

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Salt Water Shore Fishing Reports / NVC 10/20: Still Waiting, but a PB Leo

« on: October 21, 2019, 02:13:09 AM »

6pm-11pm. Low tide at 10:15pm.

Leo bit at about 9pm. 50" boyyo (edit: judging by another pic with the tail in view it’s 52”). Caught on chunk mackerel. Was pretty feisty, coming in I thought it might be my first soupy, but I'll take a PB any day. Bait picker-atters present.

Water temp 63º. Moderate kelp. Some wind in the night but not bad. Occasional 4' outside break was pushing my rig down the beach every other cast, even with a 6oz sputnik. Probably need a refresher on advanced casting techniques to get that extra 50'. Soaked bat ray the last hour for no action.

Jeremy

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Salt Water Shore Fishing Reports / Re: A Tale of Incompatible Ends (10/15)

« on: October 17, 2019, 03:16:19 AM »

Big bug. I've never considered the two piece rod snafu before. The thing I hate forgetting are the sand stakes. Yes I can stand there and do it myself, but coming into a trip thinking I can lounge around and then seeing I forgot those, sucks. Probably a bit worse yet to forget the rod tip.

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Salt Water Shore Fishing Reports / Re: NVC - 10/14

« on: October 17, 2019, 03:09:38 AM »

It'll be a few weeks before we head up your way Jeremy..............I'll let you know before hand   

Sounds good Verne. I'll probably keep giving myself Sundays for sharking and hopefully I'll find a pulse for us.

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Salt Water Shore Fishing Reports / NVC - 10/14

« on: October 14, 2019, 11:37:15 PM »

High tide 10:15pm, fished 7:30pm-11:15pm. 65 degree water.

Lake like conditions, no wind, no weeds. Water was so clear that while wading out to cast, with my headlamp light I could see the eyes of shovels and bats reflecting back at me in the water, along with a few small baitfish.

I was strictly using ray for bait, trying to get a pulse on if it's sevengill season yet. From my observations, it is not time. No bites for two rods soaking the whole time.